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5 min readHaviv Rettig Gur opens not with a verdict on the documentary NAZA (which he has not seen, as it is not available to Israelis), but with a careful framework for evaluating its central claim: that Israel's targeting policy in Gaza, including the use of AI and permissive collateral damage rules, produced unlawful and unnecessary civilian deaths. He refuses to dismiss the allegations outright, but insists that the film—and its audience—must meet a rigorous standard of evidence and context that he believes the filmmakers' track record and the film's reception both undermine.
The central allegation and why it is hard to assess
The film, by journalists Yuval Abraham and Rachel Szor, uses 24 anonymous testimonies from military and intelligence insiders to argue that Israel’s targeting system treated civilian deaths as an acceptable cost of rapidly destroying Hamas infrastructure in the war’s early months. Key examples include striking Hamas commanders at home with their families present rather than in the field, and using AI to generate targets at a pace that stripped away careful judgment.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:04) **Opening – Why a Skeptical Framework Matters** - Haviv introduces the episode as a response to subscriber questions about the film *NAZA* (*Nezic Agavi*), which premiered at Venice and generated political upheaval in Israel, while noting he hasn’t seen it.
- 2 (03:31) **Clarifying the Legal Framework – Proportionality and Collateral Damage** - Haviv dismantles the online claim that predicting civilian deaths proves murder, explaining that estimating civilian casualties is mandatory under international law for proportionality judgments.
- 3 (05:26) **What the Film Must Show to Be Persuasive** - Haviv outlines the specific evidence needed to prove wrongdoing: unreliable target identification, inflated military value claims, excessive casualties compared to military gain, and ignored feasible precautions at scale.
- 4 (07:47) **Problems with Anonymity and Tendentious Framing** - Haviv critiques the film’s use of anonymous interviewees and its activist framing, citing a review by Raviv Drucker in Haaretz who questioned the film’s fairness.
- 5 (10:16) **Skepticism of the Filmmakers – The 83% Civilian Casualty Claim** - Haviv examines a prior investigation by filmmaker Yuval Abraham and the Guardian that claimed 83% of Gaza war dead were civilians, arguing the headline was misleading.
- 6 (16:27) **How Authentic Information Can Mislead** - Haviv warns that real databases and real officer testimony can be presented to support false conclusions, using the example of a captain horrified by loosened CBE requirements without knowing the broader military context.
- 7 (18:51) **Funding, Editorial Culture, and Incentive Structures** - Haviv discusses how the Guardian’s role and foreign funding shape the film’s editorial judgment, creating incentives to tell a story their audience wants to hear.
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