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Talk Your Book: Navigating Fixed Income in a Crazy World

March 30, 2026

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In a volatile environment marked by geopolitical tensions, uncertain rates, and shifting inflation expectations, Stephanie LaRose-Lier, head of business strategy and development at Invesco, explains how fixed income has evolved beyond its traditional role as a simple portfolio ballast. Fixed income now demands diversification across products like structured credit, investment grade corporates, ultra-short strategies, and floating rate funds to handle varied conditions such as rising rates or inflation spikes. She outlines client priorities—income, stability, and flexibility—and Invesco's approaches to matching these with opportunities while navigating public versus private credit risks.

Sorting Fixed Income Options by Risk and Needs

Investors face unprecedented choices, moving past generic total bond or Treasury funds. LaRose-Lier stresses assessing income needs, stability preferences, and risk tolerance first. Opportunities lie in structured credit (due to inefficiencies), intermediate investment grade (for yield and downside protection), and ultra-short durations like Invesco's GSY ETF. This allows earning yield without heavy rate-timing bets, appealing amid uncertainty that keeps $7 trillion in money markets despite Fed funds off highs. ETFs shine here: lower costs than mutual funds (no transfer agent fees), tax efficiency via in-kind redemptions (reducing capital gains

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  • 1 (00:43) **Intro to Fixed Income Evolution** - Hosts discuss how fixed income has diversified beyond traditional bonds, performing differently in various environments like rising rates or inflation
  • 2 (01:59) **Client Conversations Today** - Stephanie on balancing income, geopolitical volatility, and rate uncertainty
  • 3 (02:48) **Sorting Fixed Income Options** - Recommends structured credit, intermediate IG curve, ultra short for opportunities matching risk appetite
  • 4 (03:40) **Ultra Short vs Money Markets** - GSY ETF allows yield without high rate timing risk; explains persistent $7T in MMFs due to uncertainty
  • 5 (04:51) **Public vs Private Credit Risks** - Private misses public transparency, ratings, liquidity; public offers due diligence and daily liquidity
  • 6 (06:20) **Positioning Amid 10Y Volatility** - Prefers intermediate curve for downside protection, yield, low reinvestment/volatility risk
  • 7 (07:29) **Long-Term Trends like AI** - Tech/AI deflationary but one factor among inflation stickiness, geopolitics, energy prices

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On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Invesco's Stephanie Larosiliere to discuss: how to diversify your bonds, AI's impact on the economy, hedging higher inflation and more.


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