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5 min readA 24-year-old South Korean university student turned his $20,000 military savings into a $200,000 fortune using 5x leverage on his trading app. Within four weeks, it was all gone—forced liquidations wiped him out. His response? "I'm sticking to margin loans." He plans to borrow again as soon as he can. This story, reported by Reuters and discussed on the latest Animal Spirits, captures something strange about the current moment: the stock market is near all-time highs, but underneath the surface, stocks are getting absolutely hammered, and the people who got extended are learning painful lessons.
The Good Kind of Market Rotation
The semiconductor sell-off has been brutal. Micron is down 27% from its highs, Western Digital down 34%, and Sandisk down 46%—yet Sandisk is still up 2,900% over the last year. The hosts frame this as good news, not bad. The S&P 500 is only 2% off all-time highs, and on the day semiconductors dropped 4%, software stocks rose 3.3%. Going back to 1989, that kind of divergence is an absolute outlier. "For all the bubble talk, this is good news," Michael says. The momentum factor had one of its craziest runs ever—the iShares momentum ETF (MTUM) went from down 10% on the year in April to up 40% three months later, then back to a 20% gain in the last month. "This feels a little more healthy," Ben notes. "The gains we were seeing through April were clear
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What you'll learn
- 1 (02:43) **Semiconductor Selloff and Market Rotation** - The hosts discuss an unusual market day where semiconductors dropped 4% while software rose 3.3%, calling it an outlier not seen since 1989.
- 2 (06:57) **Late Cycle Behavior or Resilient Market?** - The hosts debate whether the broadening into consumer staples and credit signals late-cycle behavior or just normal market evolution.
- 3 (07:56) **Valuations and the Falling PE Ratio** - The hosts examine how forward P/E ratios have compressed from 18x to 19.5x even as stocks rose, questioning what this signals.
- 4 (13:25) **IPO Underperformance and Private Market Overvaluation** - The hosts discuss how IPOs have been massacred since 2019, with the average IPO down 30% twelve months after listing.
- 5 (17:27) **The Consensus Bearishness on Bonds** - Michael questions why everyone is bearish on bonds despite yields being at 5%, a level that would have seemed attractive a decade ago.
- 6 (22:07) **South Korea's Leverage Mania** - A wild story about a South Korean student using 5x leverage to build and lose a $200,000 fortune in weeks.
- 7 (25:36) **Blackstone-Vanguard Private Market Fund** - The hosts analyze the new all-markets fund combining Vanguard indexing with Blackstone private assets.
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Show Notes
On episode 475, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: a good sign for the bull market, semoconductor stocks crashing, why valuations keep falling, everyone is bearish about bonds, South Korea traders, how big SpaceX could get, why people keep spending money, Netflix is still dominating streaming, why there aren't more IMAX theaters and more.
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