All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

The $1/Hour Worker: Four Robotics CEOs on Humanoids at Home, China's Threat, and the End of Dangerous Jobs

July 28, 2026

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The $1/Hour Worker: Four Robotics CEOs on Humanoids at Home, China's Threat, and the End of Dangerous Jobs

At the Makina conference in Paris, the All-In podcast hosted four robotics CEOs whose companies represent different approaches to the same question: when will robots do useful work outside of factories, and what will that cost? The answers ranged from "it's already happening" to "less than a decade from hard takeoff," with a recurring tension between industrial deployment today and the promise of humanoids entering homes by 2026.

The Four-Legged Robot That Already Works

Dr. Peter Funkhauser, CEO of Anybotics, makes the Anymal — a four-legged inspection robot deployed in oil rigs, wind farms, and chemical plants. The quadruped form factor won out because "a lot of animals have four legs" for good reason: stability on slippery floors, stairs, snow, and uneven terrain. Funkhauser pushed back on the idea that humanoids will replace four-legged robots, arguing that the use cases are different. "If you need to work in a coffee shop, narrow spaces, you want to work at eye level," he said. In industrial facilities, there's enough space for four legs, and the stability advantage matters more.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 Timestamped Navigation Outline
  • 2 (01:03) **Dr. Peter Funkhauser, Anybotics CEO - Four-Legged Robot Design & Industrial Inspection** - Why the quadruped form factor dominates industrial robotics and how Anybotics deploys inspection robots in dangerous environments
  • 3 (04:00) **Economic Model: Avoiding Downtime Pays for Expensive Robots** - Why customers can justify six-figure robots with powerful onboard compute
  • 4 (06:12) **Most Fascinating Deployments: Offshore Oil, Wind, and Explosive Atmospheres** - Robots operating where humans cannot safely go
  • 5 (08:17) **The Holy Grail: Moving from Detection to Repair** - Why fixing problems autonomously remains years away
  • 6 (09:10) **China Threat: Zero Chinese Sourcing and the Data Security Advantage** - How Anybotics competes against cheaper Chinese hardware
  • 7 (11:21) **Military Applications: Anti-Weaponization Stance** - Why Anybotics refuses to build armed robots despite China building them

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Show Notes

(0:00) Intro: Humanoids, Robots, & AI+

(0:57) ANYbotics' Dr. Péter Fankhauser: Why ANYbotics Bet the Company on Four-Legged Robot Dogs, Not Humanoids

(13:18) Dr. Péter Fankhauser: China's Armed Robot Dogs Are "Stupid and Risky" — Inside the Terminator Debate

(15:01) NEO's Bernt Børnich: Neo Ships in 2026 and Becomes an Open Robot Platform

(22:18) Bernt Børnich: Robots Building Robots in Just 3 Years — "Hard Takeoff"

(33:45) Boston Dynamics' Amanda McMaster: Spot Is Now the Most Deployed Robot on Earth — Atlas is the Most Capable

(42:36) Amanda McMaster: Chinese Robotics Security Risks

(47:14) Agility Robotics' Jonathan Hurst: Why "This Time Is Different" for Humanoids After 100 Years of False Starts

(58:45) Jonathan Hurst: When Do Robots Outnumber Humans on the Factory Floor?

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