All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Senators John Fetterman and Dave McCormick: Bipartisanship, Money in DC, Datacenters, Graham Platner

June 10, 2026

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Senator John Fetterman (D-PA) and Senator Dave McCormick (R-PA) appeared together on the All-In podcast to discuss their working relationship, the state of the Senate, and the future of Pennsylvania. Both flipped their respective seats in recent cycles, and they argue that their state’s electorate—a mix of urban Democrats and rural Republicans built around a working-family coalition—demands a different kind of politics. The conversation ranged from the filibuster and AI to wealth concentration and the rise of extremist candidates, with both senators offering a rare display of cross-party agreement on several high-stakes issues.

The Filibuster as a Bulwark Against Tribalism

Senator Fetterman offered a striking mea culpa on the filibuster. He admitted that he and the entire Democratic Party were "so wrong" about wanting to eliminate it in 2020, and that history has "vindicated" Senators Manchin and Sinema for standing firm. "Now it forces people to work together with both sides," Fetterman said, warning that turning the Senate into a smaller version of the House would have "profound implications." He called defending the filibuster a "hill I would die on." McCormick agreed, noting that while the pace of the Senate is frustrating, the filibuster creates the "impetus to get things done" and forces collaboration. Both senators framed the filibuster not as a procedural relic bu

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1 (00:00) **Introduction & Bipartisan Framing** - The episode opens with both senators from Pennsylvania, a key swing state, explaining their commitment to finding common ground despite deep partisan divides.
2 (01:33) **The Consequential Moment & Need for Bipartisanship** - Senator McCormick frames the current era as the most consequential in a lifetime, driven by AI, life sciences, and energy, which creates anxiety and polarization.
3 (02:47) **Pennsylvania as a Microcosm & the Working Families Coalition** - The senators discuss how Pennsylvania’s diverse electorate (urban vs. rural) forces coalition-building, and how a working families coalition is key.
4 (06:37) **The Senate's Low Approval & the Debt Crisis** - The hosts challenge the senators on the Senate's low approval rating, the $40 trillion debt, and the feeling that the government is not working for the bottom half of Americans.
5 (10:01) **The Filibuster as a Bulwark** - The conversation turns to the filibuster, with Senator Fetterman admitting he was wrong to support ending it and now defending it as critical for minority rights and forcing bipartisanship.
6 (13:33) **The K-Shaped Economy & Wealth Concentration** - The hosts press on the K-shaped economy, where the bottom half of Americans are not benefiting, and ask for a plan to address wealth concentration.
7 (16:00) **Government Spending vs. Economic Mobility** - The hosts argue that more government spending makes it harder for people to have economic mobility, and that a freer market would be better.