All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

More Trillion Dollar IPOs, Anthropic $3T, Zuck's Price War, China Ends Open Source?, Trump Accounts

July 11, 2026

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The episode opens with a striking claim from Chamath: his CTO told him that token costs at his company are doubling every 45 days while downstream productivity gains are stuck at roughly 5%. That single data point frames the central tension running through the entire conversation — the AI industry is generating staggering revenue growth, but the ROI question is becoming impossible to ignore.

The Trillion-Dollar IPO Pipeline

SpaceX went public this year at a $1.75 trillion valuation, raised $75 billion, and is now trading at roughly $2 trillion on about $35 billion of forward revenue. It was a textbook IPO, and Brad Gerstner says it provided a blueprint for the next two blockbusters: Anthropic and OpenAI. Anthropic confidentially filed on June 1st, and Polymarket gives it a 65% chance of going public this year. Gavin Baker has said Anthropic could exit 2026 with over $100 billion in revenue and would trade at $3 trillion today if public. OpenAI's rumored revenue is around $70 billion, with GPT-6 expected within 30 days. Brad says Altimeter would be a buyer at scale in both IPOs, but he cautions that once a company is valued at over a trillion dollars, the get-rich-quick phase is over — these are compounders growing revenue at 30%+ on enormous bases, not 10x plays.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (03:00) **Trillion-Dollar IPO Rush** - SpaceX, Anthropic, and OpenAI are all heading toward public markets, with SpaceX already trading at a $2T market cap and Anthropic confidentially filing.
  • 2 (05:18) **Token Cost Doubling Every 45 Days** - Chamath shares a sobering internal conversation about token costs doubling while downstream productivity gains are only ~5%.
  • 3 (07:17) **SpaceX IPO as a Blueprint** - Brad breaks down why the SpaceX IPO was a textbook success and how it paves the way for Anthropic and OpenAI.
  • 4 (11:48) **Retail Access and Long-Term Compounding** - Brad advises that trillion-dollar IPOs are compounders, not get-rich-quick schemes, and criticizes accredited investor laws.
  • 5 (13:37) **Consumer vs. Enterprise AI Positioning** - The hosts debate whether OpenAI's consumer focus or Anthropic's enterprise focus will prove more durable.
  • 6 (17:31) **CTOs Respond on ROI** - The industry pushes back on the ROI debate, with Uber's CTO and DoorDash's CTO detailing their AI deployment strategies on X.
  • 7 (20:16) **The TAM Argument for Frontier Labs** - Brad argues the total addressable market for AI intelligence is so vast that the revenue growth is unprecedented and sustainable.

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Show Notes

(0:00) Bestie intros: Brad Gerstner fills in for Friedberg!

(2:58) OpenAI vs Anthropic IPOs: Why it matters who goes first, what they learned from the SpaceX IPO, the unlimited TAM of intelligence

(27:39) The open source decision, Meta's new model, Zuck's price war, AI duopoly

(54:29) CCP considering putting export controls on Chinese models, is open source ending in China?

(1:03:09) Trump Accounts launch, getting young Americans bought back into capitalism

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https://polymarket.com/event/ipos-before-2027

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