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Martin Shkreli: Big Pharma's Blind Spot, Betting Against Quantum & What Prison Taught Him

October 12, 2026

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Martin Shkreli on Quantum Computing, Drug Development, and What Prison Taught Him

Martin Shkreli is best known for raising the price of a life-saving drug by 5,000% and serving seven years in prison. But in this conversation, the former hedge fund manager and entrepreneur offers a more nuanced take on several topics—why he believes quantum computing is overhyped, how he actually made money in pharmaceuticals, and what he learned about himself while incarcerated.

The Quantum Computing Skeptic

Shkreli's critique of quantum computing is technical rather than ideological. He argues that the field rests on a single useful algorithm—Peter Shor's algorithm for integer factorization—and that this narrow capability has been mistaken for a general-purpose speedup.

"People synonymize it with faster computing, which sounds great," Shkreli says. "That's really not what it is at all." He points out that modern quantum computers run at clock speeds of hundreds or thousands of hertz, not gigahertz like conventional chips. They are single-core and single-threaded. For ordinary tasks like sorting a deck of cards, a classical computer wins easily.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:00) **Introduction & Quantum Computing Thesis** - Martin Shkreli is introduced as the "most hated man in America" for a 5,000% drug price hike. He immediately pivots to his core critique of quantum computing.
  • 2 (06:02) **The Computational Edge: Analog Optical Computing** - Shkreli pivots from quantum to what he sees as the real next frontier in computing.
  • 3 (07:48) **Shkreli's Origin Story & The Drug Price Hike** - The hosts ask for the full history of his infamous drug pricing episode.
  • 4 (11:11) **Market Views: NVIDIA, Compute, and Jevons Paradox** - Shkreli discusses the current AI capex buildout and his investment theses.
  • 5 (12:44) **Portfolio Strategy & The Dario Amodei Critique** - Shkreli discusses his personal investing style and delivers a sharp critique of Anthropic's CEO.
  • 6 (14:40) **Effective Accelerationism (e/acc) vs. Effective Altruism (EA)** - Shkreli explains his philosophical alignment and why he loathes the EA movement.
  • 7 (16:35) **The AI Valuation Trap & Market Analogy** - The hosts probe Shkreli on the sustainability of AI company valuations.

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Show Notes

(0:00) Martin Shkreli joins the Besties!

(0:55) Why quantum computing is a one-trick business and why he's betting against it

(7:42) The drugs big pharma sells too cheap and his journey from hedge fund trader to pharma

(11:37) AI, drug discovery, and who actually wins

(21:32) Brilliance and rule-breaking, the gifted-kid trap & what prison taught him

 

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