All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Inside the Private Stock Market Boom: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI & the Rise of Secondaries

June 7, 2026

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🎙️ The Speakers & Context

  • The Format: Panel discussion with host moderation on the All-In Podcast.
  • The Key Players:
    • Gavin Baker, Managing Partner and CIO of Atreides: Deep expertise in late-stage private tech and AI investments; has direct exposure to companies like SpaceX.
    • Brad Bersner, Forge/Schwab ecosystem lead and Invest America advocate: Former private company CEO turned public market operator; architect of regulated secondary platforms.
    • Jason Calacanis and co-hosts: Provide allocator and founder perspectives on venture liquidity dynamics.
  • The Vibe: Technical and reflective, with measured disagreement on whether private-market opacity benefits founders or distorts capital allocation.

🎣 The Executive Hook

  • The "One Big Idea": Secondary markets have evolved from a niche liquidity tool into a structural parallel to IPOs, allowing trillion-dollar AI companies to remain private indefinitely while distributing ownership to retail platforms. This creates quasi-public assets trading at premiums, fundamentally altering DPI timelines for VCs and employee wealth realization.
  • Why It Matters: With AI driving 300% average growth in 19 private companies, the capital formation cycle is decoupling from public-market scrutiny, shifting power toward founders but introducing systemic valuation and access risks.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:00) **🎙️ Introduction: Gavin Baker, Brad Gerstner, and Jason Calacanis**
  • 2 (00:59) **The Rise of Secondary Markets**
  • 3 (03:08) **Impact on Employees and Market Orderliness**
  • 4 (09:17) **The Case for Public vs. Private Companies**
  • 5 (11:50) **SPVs, Democratization, and the Schwab-Forge Deal**
  • 6 (16:21) **Selling into Secondaries and VC Dynamics**
  • 7 (21:51) **Returns, Risk, and the Role of Long-Only Funds**

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Show Notes

(0:00) Brad Gerstner, Gavin Baker, and Kelly Rodriques join the Besties!

(0:47) Secondary Markets are Booming & Competing with IPOs

(3:10) Why Companies are Staying Private So Long?

(9:22) SPVs, the Forge-Schwab Deal, Democratizing Private Market Access

(13:28) Secondary Markets as Exit Liquidity for VCs

(27:00) The Private Market Bubble?

(32:03) Hottest Secondary Companies Right Now

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