All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

CoreWeave Crash, AI Trade Cracks, Anthropic IPO Red Flags, Bill Gates Doomer

October 17, 2026

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CoreWeave's Debt Jitters, Anthropic's IPO Math, and the AI Doom Machine

The number one podcast in the world—they're still riding that high—returned with Ben Horowitz filling in for David Friedberg, and the conversation landed on a week that tested the AI trade. CoreWeave's bonds sold off hard after a single word from Elon Musk—"yikes"—sent credit markets into a spiral. Anthropic held an investor day that leaked mixed signals ahead of a potential Thanksgiving IPO. And the hosts spent considerable time unpacking what they see as a coordinated fear campaign from Anthropic and Bill Gates, arguing the real danger in AI is not the models themselves but the people trying to regulate them into submission.

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1 Timestamped Outline
2 (00:04) **Episode Opening & Banter** - The hosts celebrate reaching #1 on Apple Podcasts and welcome Ben Horowitz as guest host
3 (02:20) **CoreWeave Bond Selloff & AI Bubble Fears** - The AI trade cracks as CoreWeave's debt yields spike to 15%, triggering a broader selloff in neo-cloud stocks
4 (05:56) **Chamath's Deep Dive on CoreWeave's Financial Mechanics** - Chamath analyzes why the market repriced CoreWeave's risk despite the seemingly sound "box" structure
5 (13:14) **Ben Horowitz on Neo-Cloud Risks vs. Internet Bubble** - Ben contrasts today's GPU shortage with the bandwidth glut that killed the internet bubble
6 (18:30) **Polymarket on CoreWeave Bankruptcy & Broader AI Trade** - The hosts debate whether the CoreWeave selloff signals systemic risk or just market volatility
7 (20:59) **Fundamentals of AI Demand Remain Strong** - JCal and Chamath walk through why the underlying AI thesis hasn't changed