All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Can the AI Industry Regulate Itself? Stripe Wants PayPal, China Catches Up, NY Bans Datacenters

July 18, 2026

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The AI Industry's Self-Regulation Debate: A Strategy to Avoid Government Control

DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis recently proposed a US-led international AI standards body modeled after FINRA, the financial industry regulatory authority. The idea is a self-regulatory organization (SRO) that would be federally overseen but industry-funded and run by independent technical experts. Frontier labs would submit their models 30 days before release, with benchmarks updated quarterly, and the body could coordinate a slowdown in development if catastrophic risks emerged. The proposal has drawn broad support from Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Jack Clark at Anthropic, Sundar Pichai, and Satya Nadella.

Why an SRO Instead of Government Regulation

The core argument for an SRO is that government agencies lack the expertise to evaluate rapidly evolving AI models. David Sacks, who discussed the proposal directly with Hassabis, explained that creating a new federal agency—what Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei has called "an FAA for AI"—would be disastrous. The FAA requires type certification for new aircraft designs, a process that takes five to nine years. Even amending an existing certificate takes three to five years. Applied to AI, that timeline would mean models waiting months or years for approval, while China faces no such constraints.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 Timestamped Outline
  • 2 (00:00) **Episode Opening & Banter** - Hosts return with lighthearted jokes about Louisiana prison deals and ancestral history
  • 3 (01:37) **Demis Hassabis's AI Regulation Proposal** - DeepMind CEO proposes a FINRA-style self-regulatory organization (SRO) for AI, modeled after financial industry oversight
  • 4 (03:13) **Sacks's Five Conditions for an AI SRO** - Sacks outlines critical guardrails to prevent regulatory capture and make the proposal workable
  • 5 (07:58) **FAA for AI vs. SRO** - Sacks warns Dario Amodei's proposed "FAA for AI" would mean 5-9 year certification timelines, killing US competitiveness
  • 6 (12:10) **Chamath on Regulatory Capture Risk** - Urges quick adoption of SRO to preempt a "torrent of money" trying to influence regulation
  • 7 (15:57) **Anthropic's Regulatory Capture Strategy** - Sacks details evidence of Anthropic's state-by-state push for increasingly tough AI rules

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Show Notes

(0:00) Bestie intros!

(1:32) New AI regulatory proposal: DeepMind's Demis Hassabis proposes FINRA-type body

(20:01) Stripe, Block, and Advent offer $53B to acquire PayPal

(37:51) Apple sues OpenAI, alleging stolen trade secrets

(42:49) Grok Build data leak, AI data privacy, Tokenmaxxing update, Mira Murati's new model

(59:53) NY bans datacenters, becoming first state to enact a moratorium

(1:22:57) Science Corner: New data on reversing aging!

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