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5 min read“I was the most cynical anti-Hasidus anti-spirituality person in the entire universe,” says Rabbi Dr. Shlomo Pill, describing his mindset before his life unraveled. A childhood friend of host David Bashevkin, Pill grew up in the same Orthodox community, attended the same yeshiva, and seemed to embody the “rabbi doctor” ideal—a law professor with a PhD in comparative Jewish and Islamic legal studies, deeply learned in Torah. But beneath the credentials, a quiet desperation was metastasizing. Pill’s story, shared on the 18Forty Podcast, is a case study in a kind of suffering that the Jewish community often overlooks: the suffering of the overachiever, the valedictorian, the person at the front of the class whose struggles remain invisible because their external life looks so successful.
The Hole Beneath the Credentials
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **Episode Introduction & Sponsor Messages** - Host David Bashevkin introduces the episode’s theme: the overlooked need for teshuvah (repentance) among high achievers, not just those who are obviously struggling.
- 2 (09:04) **The "Rabbi Doctor" Image vs. Inner Reality** - Shlomo describes how his external success (PhD, law professor) masked deep feelings of failure and disappointment.
- 3 (12:43) **The First Cracks: Roots of the Hole** - Shlomo traces the origins of his addiction back to early professional disappointments and a lack of emotional tools.
- 4 (18:21) **The Moment of Discovery: Being "Outed"** - Shlomo explains that his addiction was never acknowledged by him until it was discovered by others.
- 5 (25:22) **The Nature of the Hole: Perfectionism and External Validation** - The conversation explores how the "hole" is formed, particularly in high-achievers who seek external credentials for self-worth.
- 6 (33:44) **The Perniciousness of the "A Student" Struggle** - The discussion focuses on why the suffering of the high-achiever is particularly insidious and overlooked.
- 7 (38:01) **Holding onto Torah After the Fall** - Shlomo explains why his relationship with Torah was never tainted by his addiction and subsequent exposure.
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In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we talk to rabbi, attorney, and professor Shlomo Pill about how Torah and teshuva have helped him handle his struggle with addiction.
In this episode we discuss:
—How do we bring ourselves to do teshuva when things outwardly appear to be going well?
—How can we give our children Jewish tools for processing, explaining, and coming to terms with life’s difficulties?
—How can Torah help us in the inner work of overcoming our negative impulses?
Interview begins at 4:53.
Tune in to hear a conversation about addiction, teshuva, and the ways Torah can help us make sense of life’s struggles and find a path toward growth.
Rabbi Dr. Shlomo C. Pill is a rabbi, attorney, and law professor whose scholarship focuses on Jewish, Islamic, and American law, religious liberty, and the relationship between religious traditions and the American legal system. He is an Assistant Professor of Law at Texas Southern University’s Thurgood Marshall School of Law and previously taught at Emory University. He is the co-author of Setting the Table: An Introduction to the Jurisprudence of Rabbi Yechiel Michel Epstein’s Arukh Hashulchan and is also the founder of Beis Midrash Nishmas HaTorah in Houston, where he teaches Torah and Penimiyus haTorah.
References:
Tzidkat HaTzadik 154
Story of Our Lives: An Epic Quest for the Soul of our Tradition by Yaakov Klein
Attached by Yakov Danishefsky
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