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Elliot Kaufman: October 7 and What Came After

October 7, 2026

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“The Jews are tearing themselves apart,” Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar told his own negotiators in late 2024, urging them to wait rather than make a hostage deal. “We’re going to get everything we want if we just wait another [for them to] tear each other apart a little bit more.” That chilling calculation, drawn from the internal Israeli divisions Sinwar saw playing out in real time, is one of many revelations in In the War Room, the new book by Wall Street Journal editorial board member Elliot Kaufman and co-author Yonah Jeremy Bob. Kaufman sat down with the 18Forty Podcast to walk through what he learned from unprecedented access to Israel’s top decision-makers — including hours-long conversations with Prime Minister Netanyahu — and to reflect on his own Jewish journey, the collapse of Israel’s global standing, and what the Jewish community gets wrong about fighting back online.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:35) **The October 7th Surprise and the Iranian Axis’s Plan** - Elliot Kaufman explains that Sinwar’s attack was not the master plan, but a fallback option meant to trigger a multi-front war to destroy Israel.
  • 2 (12:54) **Why Hezbollah and Iran Didn’t Fully Join the Attack** - Kaufman details the crucial hesitation of Hezbollah’s leader, Nasrallah, which prevented a catastrophic multi-front war on October 7th.
  • 3 (18:18) **The Instant Mobilization of Anti-Israel Sentiment in the West** - The host is shocked by the immediate, coordinated pro-Palestinian rallies and media toolkit distributed on October 8th.
  • 4 (25:42) **How the Anti-Israel Narrative Won by Erasing Hamas** - Kaufman explains that the narrative succeeded by systematically pretending Hamas didn’t exist in the story of the war.
  • 5 (29:08) **Elliot Kaufman’s Jewish Journey: From Toronto to the Upper West Side** - Kaufman shares his personal story of growing up in a Conservative Jewish home in Toronto and his path toward Modern Orthodox observance.
  • 6 (38:02) **Being Visibly Jewish at the Wall Street Journal** - The host asks about the decision to wear a kippah at work and how his Jewish identity shaped his experience in a prestigious newsroom covering Jewish stories.
  • 7 (46:16) **Grading the Jewish Community’s Online Response to Anti-Semitism** - Kaufman gives a failing grade to the organized Jewish community’s response to online anti-Semitism.

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Show Notes

In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we talk to Elliot Kaufman, a member of The Wall Street Journal's editorial board and co-author of In the War Room, about what happened inside Israel's war room after October 7th and how Israel came to lose the battle over its own story.

In this episode we discuss:

—Was October 7th part of a larger plan to destroy Israel?
—How did the anti-Israel narrative take hold in the West so quickly?
—What is the vision for the Jewish state once the security threats recede?

Interview begins at 3:40. 

Tune in to hear a conversation about the fight for Israel's survival on the battlefield and its fight for its narrative on the world stage. Elliot Kaufman is a member of The Wall Street Journal's editorial board, where he writes on Israel, Iran, and the Middle East, and previously served as the paper's letters editor. Raised in Toronto and a graduate of Stanford University, he has covered the war for the Journal since October 7th. He is the co-author, with Yonah Jeremy Bob, of In the War Room: The Inside Story of Israel's Fight Against Hamas and the Iranian Axis.

References:

In the War Room: The Inside Story of Israel's Fight Against Hamas and the Iranian Axis by Yonah Jeremy Bob and Elliot Kaufman

Target Tehran by Yonah Jeremy Bob and Ilan Evyatar

One State, Two States: Resolving the Israel/Palestine Conflict by Benny Morris

The Jews of Modernity by Milton Himmelfarb

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