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Carmi Schwartz: The Road That Got Us Here [American Jewish History 4/4]

July 14, 2026

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In 1949, a sixteen-year-old from Montreal sailed sixteen days from New York to Haifa on the SS Neptunia. He had come to study in a yeshiva high school, but he also found himself in the living room of the Chazon Ish, in the basement of the future Chief Rabbi Yitzchak Isaac Herzog, and in a mathematics lecture at the Hebrew University that was housed in a single building on the corner of Ben Yehuda and King George. That teenager was Carmi Schwartz, and the story of how he got from that boat to the helm of North America’s Jewish federation system—and why he was eventually pushed out—is a compressed history of the American Jewish community’s internal struggles over identity, money, and authenticity.

The Making of a Communal Leader

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:07) **Opening: The Symbol of Magen David Adom** - Host introduces the episode's sponsor by reflecting on the meaning and history of Israel's national emergency medical service.
  • 2 (02:22) **Host Introduction: The Danger of Judgmentalism** - David Bashevkin introduces the episode's theme, cautioning against a posture of contempt when reflecting on one's own community and past.
  • 3 (13:29) **Guest Introduction: Carmi Schwartz, a Living Archive of History** - Bashevkin introduces his guest, Carmi Schwartz, a former head of the Council of Jewish Federations, whose life contains decades of Jewish communal history.
  • 4 (15:17) **Early Life & Father's Journey: From Slobodka to Zionism** - Carmi Schwartz begins by recounting his father's journey from a chassidic yeshiva to the famous Slobodka yeshiva in Lithuania, and his later development into a passionate religious Zionist.
  • 5 (20:21) **A Teenage Journey to the New State of Israel (1949)** - Carmi describes his trip to Israel just one year after its founding, motivated by his sisters who had made aliyah.
  • 6 (30:54) **Meeting the Gedolim: The Chazon Ish and Rav Zelman Meltzer** - Carmi shares his memories of meeting two of the greatest Torah leaders of the era while in Israel.
  • 7 (33:38) **Return to America: Polio and a Father's Intervention** - Carmi explains why he did not stay in Israel, citing a polio epidemic and his father's concern.

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Show Notes

In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we talk to Jewish communal executive Carmi Schwartz about lessons he’s learned in his 90-plus years as a member and leader of the Jewish community. 

In this episode we discuss: 

—What draws a professional to Jewish communal work rather than business pursuits or Torah scholarship?
—How does one imbue organizational and Zionist work with religious Jewish content?
—What has it been like to directly witness the Jewish community’s tensions around driving on Shabbat, patrilineal descent, and recognition of non-Orthodox conversions?

Interview begins at 10:20.

Tune in to hear a conversation about all of the forks in the road that brought us to this moment in American Jewish history.

Carmi Schwartz is a longtime leader in the North American Jewish federation system. He served as Executive Vice President of the Council of Jewish Federations (CJF), one of the organizations that later merged into today's Jewish Federations of North America. Earlier in his career, he held leadership positions with Jewish federations in Metropolitan New Jersey, Baltimore, Utica, Miami, and Montreal.

References:

No Country for Old Men (2007)

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