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5 min readWhen David Bashevkin hosted a conversation between an observant Jew and a friend who had left religious life, he received an anonymous letter from Baltimore. Addressed to “Mr. Bashevkin” rather than “Rabbi,” it accused him of validating a heretic and endangering the community. That letter frames this episode’s central question: Can you discuss the reasons for faith without opening the door to unbelief? Dr. Berel Leib Epstein, a physicist at Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab and author of Emuna and Physics: A Jewish Resolve, argues that you can—but only if the discussion is honest, deep, and aware of its own limitations.
The Danger and Necessity of Philosophical Tools
Epstein acknowledges that intellectual arguments for faith are inherently double-edged. Philosophy, he notes, can be used to support almost any position—the Gemara itself describes fifty ways to argue that a mouse is kosher, though it is not. The same tools that can build belief can also undermine it, depending on the user’s motives and self-awareness. A person who feels inadequate, resentful, or socially pressured may apply these tools in a way that leads away from Judaism, even while believing their reasoning is purely intellectual.
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What you'll learn
- 1 Episode Outline
- 2 (00:07) **Why This Conversation Matters** - Host David Bashevkin introduces the episode and explains why conversations about the rationality of faith can be destabilizing for religious communities
- 3 (06:07) **Introducing Dr. Berel Leib Epstein** - Bashevkin introduces his guest, a physicist at Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab and author of "Emuna and Physics"
- 4 (15:47) **The Problem with Giving Reasons for Faith** - Epstein responds to whether discussing reasons for belief inevitably opens the door to disbelief
- 5 (24:50) **Epstein's Personal Journey from Deism to Orthodoxy** - He describes the gradual process that led him to Orthodox Judaism
- 6 (34:14) **The Emotional-Intellectual Nature of Spiritual Experience** - Epstein argues that even seemingly emotional spiritual experiences have an intellectual component
- 7 (39:31) **Where is There Room for God in a Physics-Based Universe?** - Bashevkin asks how a physicist who understands natural laws can believe in divine intervention
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Guests on this episode
Show Notes
In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we talk to author and theoretical physicist Berel Leib Epstein about rational reasons to choose to believe in Judaism and live a Jewish life.
In this episode we discuss:
—In a time without clear and open revelation and miracles, how do we find God in the modern world? —How is Kabbalah like quantum mechanics?
—Why is it worth discussing reasons to believe in God in the first place?
Interview begins at 11:40.
Tune in to hear a conversation about how we find truth and build meaning in our lives.
Dr. Berel Leib Epstein is a theoretical physicist with a background in nonlinear optics and laser physics. After studying under Dr. Phillip Sprangle at the University of Maryland, he joined the Johns Hopkins Physics Laboratory, working on innovative research projects aimed at maintaining America’s technological edge in defense. Berel lives with his wife and children in Baltimore, Maryland, where he also learns in Yeshivas Ner Yisroel.
References:
Emunah and Physics: A Jewish Resolve by Dr. Berel Leib Epstein
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