Mariana van Zeller has spent years embedding herself with the people most of us try to avoid: traffickers, scammers, and cartel members. In this conversation, she walks through the mechanics of…
Mariana van Zeller — Podcast Appearances & AI Summaries
Mariana van Zeller has appeared on 2 podcast episodes in our AI-summarized catalog, including The Joe Rogan Experience, Behind the Business with Michelle Toh. Every appearance below has a free 5-minute AI summary.
What Mariana said
“I think the real reason or the main reason I wanted to do this film was because... it was always, 'But how could they do that? Why would you give money to a stranger? How could they be so silly and so stupid?' And that really annoyed me because why are we focusing on the response of the victim instead of actually understanding the actions of the scammers themselves?”
— Mariana van Zeller (02:35)
“The conversation has stopped being 'Damn, how could the victims fall for this?' It has to stop being why are the victims falling for this. It's why are we allowing this to happen?”
— Mariana van Zeller (40:48)
Episode appearances
2 
Inside Global Black Markets: Emmy-Winning Investigative Journalist Mariana van Zeller An estimated 30 to 35 percent of the global economy consists of black and gray markets—what economists call…
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